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Provide your views & questions about becoming a Heritage District

  • 20 Feb 2012 11:07 AM
    Message # 830224
    Anonymous
    An email has been sent to Members, telling them about our position on our neighbourhood becoming a Heritage Conservation District.  We want your opinions, and your questions.  Please click Reply, and join the conservation.
    Last modified: 21 Feb 2012 9:53 AM | Anonymous
  • 20 Feb 2012 10:52 PM
    Reply # 830920 on 830224
    Anonymous
    Hello!  I'm out of town and therefore sadly can't attend the 22 Feb meeting on heritage designation for the neighbourhood--but I wanted to write a brief note of support for moving ahead with HCD designation for Cabbagetown South.

    First, my family's house is already designated as a heritage building and so we have had experience with the heritage process during renovation planning.  It was quite stringent, but in the end the adjustments suggested by the heritage people were reasonable, and good for the character of the neighbourhood.  Our only reservation was that the process took several months due to long delays at the overworked City Hall heritage office.

    Second, there is ample evidence that HCD designation tends to enhance not only the aesthetic quality of the neighbourhood, but also real estate prices.  We have only to look at the part of Cabbagetown that lies east of Parliament and north of Gerrard.  We all stand to benefit, communally and individually.

    Third, I think that including the commercial and main streets such as Gerrard, Dundas and Sherbourne would be a good idea.  Respect for the integrity of old buildings (even dilapidated ones) actually tends to prevent the easy demolition of old buildings that anchor the neighbourhood with a sense of place and history.  It also works against a tendency to replace the old buildings with CHEAP new ones.  The low-quality new buildings that often go up to replace old ones tend to detract from the quality of our environment, and erode the value of our neighbouring real estate investments.  

    Yours,
    David Robertson
  • 25 Feb 2012 2:38 PM
    Reply # 835672 on 830224
    Anonymous
      I was able to attend the meeting on Wednesday evening.  Of the 7-8 people who participated in the Q and A, just 1 was postivive.  THe others were concerned about excessive cost and overly restrictive rules. Most homeowners seem to agree that Designation and having a plan in place to protect the character of the street-scape is a good thing.  However homeowners should have the ability to do things like replace windows and doors without permit , or add a dormer, or a windowell without a Heritage Permit. Homeowners have no control over who sits on the advisory committee nor the ability to challenge the bylaws put in place based on the advisory committee's District Plan.  We need to insure that there is a review process written into the District Plan which enforces review and change should the proposed parameters prove unworkable or unreasonable for property owners.
    I too would like to see properties on our main streets improved, however Heritage Designation does not necessarily encourage investment and stability in these areas. Many buildings on the east side of Sherbourne south of Gerrard are individually designated (the same as your home) but the owners (Toronto Housing) have neither the funds nor the vision to positively enhance Sherbourne Street as a desirable place to be.  As a result several old houses on the west side of the street fell into disrepair and were demolished in the last few years.  The area's main streets need a larger redevelopment plan and better incentives to make investment attractive and encourage owner occupied homes and businesses.  Saving heritage properties can be a part of that plan but not the only driving force in reclaiming the street.
    I take issue with the suggestion that everything old is well built and of outstanding architectural merit, and everything new is cheap. I live in an infill townhouse that was well designed and built to the same building codes that no doubt govern the reworking of your home's internal structure and additions.  The complex I live in apparently replaced 2 small rundown one storey  buildings with 8 family sized homes.   
    There is no shortage of homeowners willing to invest in large two or three storey houses on prime streets in the area but we run into problems with investment in smaller one storey cottages in less desirable locations.  Putting further restrictions on the redevelopment or renovation of these properties does not draw investment but the opposite.  We need to be very careful that we are realistic about the investment potential  for certain housing styles in certain pockets in the area.  Lets develop a plan that is flexible and fair to all property owners in the area. 
    Regards Don Purvis
 

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